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Sunday, November 29, 2009

Re : [CALPCandidates] Re: Trials for Terrorists

Harland Harrison wrote:
I said that "you don't know" about KSM and 9-11,  Brian Holtz; I never said "we can't know."
I assumed by "you" you're not talking about me specifically, as in "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink".  I have zero interest in debating whether I personally can make a horse drink, or in debating what you think I presently and personally know or don't know about KSM and 9/11.

You seem here to deny asserting that "we can't know" whether KSM planned 9/11, but you continue to argue that there is nothing he could say in open court that could convince you he's guilty.  I find that position too bizarre to be worth debating.

Saying I "demanded that KSM use [a right to confess] to recite the litany of crimes from his torture session transcripts" is yet another Harland Harrison lie about me. What I maintain is that KSM has a right in open court to claim credit for planning 9/11.  I also maintain that he has a right in open court to describe and denounce any torture he was subjected to, and to renounce any confessions he claims were coerced.  You hold the bizarre position that no such speech acts by KSM could ever be believed, and you are using your bizarre position as a pretext to lie about whether I advocate the courtroom use of coerced confessions.

That's simply shameful, sir.  Would you please stop it?

I predict that, unlike Tim McVeigh and Ted Kaczynski, KSM will use the legal process to proudly stand up for the beliefs that you apparently wish he didn't have, and will paint his own death penalty as martyrdom for a 9/11 operation that he remains proud to have planned.

If this course of events will embarrass any Libertarian or Green because of their previous statements about KSM, then that's not my problem.  It's theirs.  People who say embarrassing things should be embarrassed about them.

P.S. This thread has nothing to do with LPCA candidacies. Any further lies here by Harland about me will be rebutted on my blog at  Now as a Libertarian in elective office it's time for me to get back to work drafting for my town a more market-oriented alternative to the default water-conservation ordinance that Sacramento wants to impose via AB1881.  I invite Harland to report what he's doing today to advance the cause of freedom -- other than by falsely and deliberately accusing fellow Libertarians of advocating the use of coerced confessions to convict people.